z56\doc\web\2002\05\wasp.txt From: knelson10##cfl.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:50 AM To: arthurhu Subject: Religion Index Arthur, Glad to see your site back online. You have a great site with invaluable information so I don't want to nitpick, but you note Lutherans, Presbyterians, and Episcopalians as being "traditionally defined as dominant WASP group" under your 2001 UPDATE: SATs and Religion. Most Lutherans in the U.S. are of Scandinavian or Northern/Eastern German ancestry because the Lutheran religion originated in and spread from this area. So Lutherans are white Protestants and most are of Anglo-Saxon ancestry, but Lutherans are not WASPs in the Digby Baltzell sense of the term. When Digby coined the term WASP he was talking about the U.S. ruling elite (i.e., Protestant Establishment) who happened to be Anglo-Saxon Protestants, not about people of Anglo-Saxon ancestry. (http://www.sas.upenn.edu/sasalum/newsltr/spring2001/dean.html) The "WASPs" are the Episcopalians (English), Presbyterians (Scots), and the Congregationalists (English) who are now the United Church of Christ. Members of these religious denominations were the first ones to America and consequently rose to the top of society. Interestingly, most Scottish Presbyterians are not even of Anglo-Saxon ancestry. They are Celtic, like the Irish. The majority of Scandinavian and German Lutherans came over later between 1850 and 1910 and became farmers or craftsmen; my Lutheran ancestors came over from Sweden and Norway in the 1880s. Lutherans have as a general rule gravitated to the middle classes in American society and still maintain to some degree an ethnic flavor. Lutherans are definitely not WASPs in the Digby Baltzell sense. Again. I am not giving you a hard time; you have a great site. I am just trying to set the record straight. Regards, Kent Nelson